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went to iraq. and that relationship did not get off to a good footing. >> you owheinat gave vice president biden the lead for iraq policy. when it came to the big decisions, president obama had to get engaged. i found it string that during this whole negotiation over keeping troops in iraq,e talked by the secure deoconferences that they do. he talked to prime minister maliki twice. president obama, for him, iraq was a mh more importa priority rightly or wrongly and he was engaged on a weekly basis. i do think that had an eect on iri tihe was an extraordinary request that president obama made to the president of iraq to resign his position to make way for another person. it's hard to make that kind of request when you don't have an ongoing relationship with your aq counterparts. >> the book is "endgame." thank you for being here. jim miklaszewski, thank you as well. when we come back, pl simon u'ch"morng joe" brewed by starbucks. even better than we did before ♪ yeah prep yourself america we're ba
went to iraq. and that relationship did not get off to a good footing. >> you owheinat gave vice president biden the lead for iraq policy. when it came to the big decisions, president obama had to get engaged. i found it string that during this whole negotiation over keeping troops in iraq,e talked by the secure deoconferences that they do. he talked to prime minister maliki twice. president obama, for him, iraq was a mh more importa priority rightly or wrongly and he was engaged on a...
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>> what about iraq? i think the pressure on al gore to invade iraq, to go to war in iraq would have been intense because the republicans in the congress would have been pushing that. a lot of democrats thought that saddam hussein was a bad guy who had to go. there was an iraq liberation act that clinton signed under pressure. and this to me is the most interesting counterfactual. who would have been vice president of the united states? joe liberman. there's no more hawkish figure -- >> we would have been building condos in yemen. >> joe liberman would be in the popular consciousness of what dick cheney is now. >> to me, that's one of the most fascinating counter factuals. joe liberman as vice president, and it would have been a principled argument. he believed this -- >> as did cheney. >> that it would have been changed the whole middle east. i have some fun with the idea of joe liberman as vice president in a post 9/11 war pushing al gore to do something on iraq. >> all right. this is fascinating, jeff.
>> what about iraq? i think the pressure on al gore to invade iraq, to go to war in iraq would have been intense because the republicans in the congress would have been pushing that. a lot of democrats thought that saddam hussein was a bad guy who had to go. there was an iraq liberation act that clinton signed under pressure. and this to me is the most interesting counterfactual. who would have been vice president of the united states? joe liberman. there's no more hawkish figure --...
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oh, we think it's iraq. and so, it was a frame of mind that was not unreasonable for them to have because they hadn't been getting the intelligence until very recently about the evolution and change of al qaeda. and or of the nature of the threat. it's -- you can't understate what a huge transition -- >> all right. governor -- >> iic i think this is incredib unfortunate. because, first of all, having been there on september 11th and for weeks, months, thereafter, president bush provided inspired effective leadership. and september 11th, everything changed. and to look 11 years later and say, this was happening before september 11th in the summer, and to go through and selectively take out quotes and say you should have done that, you should have done that, i think is incredibly unfair and a disservice to history. and by the way, you know, if you look back, there are those who could've said president roosevelt was at fault for pearl harbor. look at -- >> there are people that do say that. >> but the governmen
oh, we think it's iraq. and so, it was a frame of mind that was not unreasonable for them to have because they hadn't been getting the intelligence until very recently about the evolution and change of al qaeda. and or of the nature of the threat. it's -- you can't understate what a huge transition -- >> all right. governor -- >> iic i think this is incredib unfortunate. because, first of all, having been there on september 11th and for weeks, months, thereafter, president bush...
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time butch each said we'd get out of iraq and we did. he said we in virginia looking at it through our eyes, the president won virginia in 2008 when he was a neophyte running against a bona fide american war hero. this a battle tested president who made very difficult decisions. he's made tough decisions here and virginians respect him. >> are you confronted at all by voters as you make your rounds in the state with the feeling that some people express, a lot of people express, the weight of this war, being carried by almost when you're in the middle of two wars your guardsmen and women are getting redeployed repeatedly. i wasn't to the deployments, i went to the funerals, i went to afghanistan to see our guards men and women there. the military families with the relief that these repeated deployments is coming to an end. i know time between deployments is decreasing. at quantico they're not being given to start tomorrow. they're being told your active. >> first of all, i love the way you talk about the staff. sequestration, the cuts tha
time butch each said we'd get out of iraq and we did. he said we in virginia looking at it through our eyes, the president won virginia in 2008 when he was a neophyte running against a bona fide american war hero. this a battle tested president who made very difficult decisions. he's made tough decisions here and virginians respect him. >> are you confronted at all by voters as you make your rounds in the state with the feeling that some people express, a lot of people express, the weight...
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and of course, in iraq, that was the problem year after year. and so with the lessons of what has occurred in afghanistan and iraq, there is -- i think and david knows more about this -- a great pause in the administration. let's see if we can avoid military action almost at any cost. >> david and bob, in that order, there's obviously a lot of reluctance on the part of the u.s. military to get involved in this there. we've seen reporting on this for the last few months where the pentagon's war gamed this out and thinks it's a very problematic scenario. so the question seems to me, at least in the immediate future, is what is the likelihood that either of you think that israel would go ahead and do this alone in the near term, meaning between now and election day? >> you know, john, that's just guessing. i mean, it's something under 50% in my mind. it's something above 20%, and where precisely that would be, i don't know. i think -- i mean, i hear netanyahu looking for a way to get sufficient u.s. assurance that he can climb down from the positio
and of course, in iraq, that was the problem year after year. and so with the lessons of what has occurred in afghanistan and iraq, there is -- i think and david knows more about this -- a great pause in the administration. let's see if we can avoid military action almost at any cost. >> david and bob, in that order, there's obviously a lot of reluctance on the part of the u.s. military to get involved in this there. we've seen reporting on this for the last few months where the...
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he had one-on-o bilateral et wst a, iraq, afghanistan. and, you know, yes you could look back and say politically that made sen for him. it is weird for the president of the united states, all these world leaders in town, not one, not one one-on-one. and u'reikegog, andou en o . again, i get the politics of it and they've made the decision saying, well, we'll take the heat from all of you media elites attacking us on this because we don't want to create any news before -- >> it's cynil. ewk s"ti ou said and whathe about today that this president not only does he not have personal relationships with even democrats in the united states senate as your story told and certainly republicans, but also foreign leaders are -ust dot as n bhese relationships and doesn't seem to want to. >> yeah. >> hasn't scheduled a single meeting with a foreign leader this week. >> a really interesting question which we talk about sometimes is why is ithat so many introverts go to politics an do wel and barack obama and jimmy carter, richard nixon, these are folks
he had one-on-o bilateral et wst a, iraq, afghanistan. and, you know, yes you could look back and say politically that made sen for him. it is weird for the president of the united states, all these world leaders in town, not one, not one one-on-one. and u'reikegog, andou en o . again, i get the politics of it and they've made the decision saying, well, we'll take the heat from all of you media elites attacking us on this because we don't want to create any news before -- >> it's cynil....
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we were in a war in iraq. the president committed to end the war. we've done that. our troops are coming home. osama bin laden was plotting against us each and every day. we don't have to worry about him anymore. if you look at how our country has moved forward, we are certainly moving in the right direction, but willie, there are certainly americans sitting around their breakfast table right now trying to figure out how to make ends meet, so our work is not done. we still have a long way to go. >> it's not just about the numbers. valerie, it's really about the perception and you're trailing significantly in [ inaudible ]. that's a big issue going into the campaign, is it not? >> this is what this convention is all about. it gives us an opportunity to really crystallize for the american people this stark contrast and it's their choice, what direction we want to go forward. i think the president in the course of this week, you're going to hear from so many speakers who talk about their life story and how this agenda moves their life forward, embodies the american dre
we were in a war in iraq. the president committed to end the war. we've done that. our troops are coming home. osama bin laden was plotting against us each and every day. we don't have to worry about him anymore. if you look at how our country has moved forward, we are certainly moving in the right direction, but willie, there are certainly americans sitting around their breakfast table right now trying to figure out how to make ends meet, so our work is not done. we still have a long way to...
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demonstrations have erupted across 11 countries including iran, iraq and sudan. right now in cairo, protesters are gathering for a fourth straight day outside the u.s. embassy there. let's go live to cairo for an update on the situation with nbc's jim maceda. jim, what can you tell us? >> reporter: hi, mika. well, right now it's relatively quiet compared to what we heard earlier this morning because prayers started about ten minutes ago. so we'll watch now how this unfolds after the prayers. there are several hundred protesters who set up camp overnight in tahrir square just down behind me to my right. they tried to make another move on the u.s. embassy early this morning. so there was more tear gas fired by riot police, thrown back by the demonstrators, some stone throwing. what we notice now is that there are huge concrete blocks cutting off access to the embassy just in case. there was also a march around tahrir square by a group of about 100 or 150 protesters. you hear that tear gas going off behind me. marching around, calling for -- chanting "god is great"
demonstrations have erupted across 11 countries including iran, iraq and sudan. right now in cairo, protesters are gathering for a fourth straight day outside the u.s. embassy there. let's go live to cairo for an update on the situation with nbc's jim maceda. jim, what can you tell us? >> reporter: hi, mika. well, right now it's relatively quiet compared to what we heard earlier this morning because prayers started about ten minutes ago. so we'll watch now how this unfolds after the...
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i said i'd end the war in iraq. i did. i said that we'd go after al qaeda. they have been decimated in the fatah. that we'd go after bin laden. he's gone. so i've executed on my foreign policy, and it's one that the american people largely agree with. you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> we're going to get to iran as well. the candidates were asked about that. but quickly, richard, on this question, explain the fine line the president is walking here, answering it. >> well, the president is out there defending his record. can i make a slightly related point on foreign policy? what's interesting to me is there's an area of overlap. the president goes out and says the egyptians are neither allies or adversaries. they're in between. if you heard romney last night, we've got to test the egyptians, see how they do with israel, how they treat christians and other groups within the society. we want so see whether they provide protection for our diplomats. he's basically saying this relationship is going t
i said i'd end the war in iraq. i did. i said that we'd go after al qaeda. they have been decimated in the fatah. that we'd go after bin laden. he's gone. so i've executed on my foreign policy, and it's one that the american people largely agree with. you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> we're going to get to iran as well. the candidates were asked about that. but quickly, richard, on this question, explain the fine line the...
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and even when the last prime minister decided to attack the nuclear reactor in iraq in 1981, we were condemned by the u.n., by the u.s. it took ten years to get a statement from the state department saying it was a smart move to destroy the reactor in iraq. >> let's get to it. what do you want to do? >> i want to make sure that our region is stable. in order to do that, we have to tell iran, we will not allow you to become nuclear. and if it takes a military action, we are willing. and i say we. it's not only israelis. not only jews against arabs. because of the values. because of democracy. and look at what's happening right now in egypt and in libya. those people are against the u.s. embassies because of the values that we represent. >> just to be clear, this is very important. you as deputy speaker of the knesset believe all other options have been exhausted and it's time for military action in iran? >> absolutely, but it should be a joint effort of the western societies and not only israel should take the burden to deal with this threat. >> well, how does america, which is out of
and even when the last prime minister decided to attack the nuclear reactor in iraq in 1981, we were condemned by the u.n., by the u.s. it took ten years to get a statement from the state department saying it was a smart move to destroy the reactor in iraq. >> let's get to it. what do you want to do? >> i want to make sure that our region is stable. in order to do that, we have to tell iran, we will not allow you to become nuclear. and if it takes a military action, we are willing....
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is scene as weak and withdrawing and we are paying the price for that unraveling whether it be for iraq, the tension in syria, the tensions with israel, afghans, afghan situation unraveling. there is a lack of leadership there, and that's what i would be talking about. and i hope that mitt romney will be looking at the big picture. >> well, senator, as you know, when mika and i are off the show, "morning joe" turns into the "young marks variety show." people like barnicle were running the ship. >> can i mention one thing about israel? >> i wanted to actually ask you about that next. the israelis, obviously, for some time have not had the greatest confidence in president obama's ability to protect them. benjamin netanyahu asked for a meeting. that request was rebuffed. it seems to me that this relationship between our leader and israel's leader is actually splitting apart at a most critical time as we me possibly towards confrontation. what should the president do? >> i would make sure that the iranians knew and the world knew that israel and the united states have the same deadlines. th
is scene as weak and withdrawing and we are paying the price for that unraveling whether it be for iraq, the tension in syria, the tensions with israel, afghans, afghan situation unraveling. there is a lack of leadership there, and that's what i would be talking about. and i hope that mitt romney will be looking at the big picture. >> well, senator, as you know, when mika and i are off the show, "morning joe" turns into the "young marks variety show." people like...
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anbar uprising in iraq started with them. when it starts with them, we can provide the catering and at the margins be really helpful. when it doesn't start with them, we cannot make any progress that they themselves don't want to make, and that's really the difficulty right now. >> mr. friedman, i would suggest you not tell dr. brzezinski that he just provided the catering. he would call you stunningly superficial. >> oh, my. >> chuck todd from the middle east to middle america, mitt romney and barack obama going back and forth. but you look at the more state polls in swing states that mitt romney is falling further and further behind. the president keeps reaching the 50% threshold that's eluded him for so long. in wisconsin, paul ryan's home state, in colorado, a state that i still believe will end up going for mitt romney by a couple of votes. and in iowa, a state that romney has to win if he loses ohio, a state i just don't see romney winning, and all three states, the president's at 50%. >> no, look. this was a rough week
anbar uprising in iraq started with them. when it starts with them, we can provide the catering and at the margins be really helpful. when it doesn't start with them, we cannot make any progress that they themselves don't want to make, and that's really the difficulty right now. >> mr. friedman, i would suggest you not tell dr. brzezinski that he just provided the catering. he would call you stunningly superficial. >> oh, my. >> chuck todd from the middle east to middle...
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he says it last night, i killed osama bin laden, i ended the war in iraq, i'm going to end the war in afghanistan for you. and just superficially in that arena, see the democratic hall, they're the ones waving the flags, chanting "usa" something a republican hall thas typicall owned. >> you think he should have saluted the troops, mitt romney, at least. >> no doubt about it. the big problem is -- the republicans look silly when they try to bash barack obama as weak on foreign policy. if barack obama -- as we've said around here, our biggest complaint about barack obama over the past three, four years is, he tripled the number of troops in afghanistan. he made promises on gitmo he didn't follow through on. he's launching drone attacks into one country offs here in the where we're not even engaged in war. i mean, we are now engaged in borderless wars all over the world. and so the republicans look silly when they say he's not strong enough. and apparently, sam, nobody has the guts to say, bring the troops home from afghanistan. >> there's a faction of the republican party that would che
he says it last night, i killed osama bin laden, i ended the war in iraq, i'm going to end the war in afghanistan for you. and just superficially in that arena, see the democratic hall, they're the ones waving the flags, chanting "usa" something a republican hall thas typicall owned. >> you think he should have saluted the troops, mitt romney, at least. >> no doubt about it. the big problem is -- the republicans look silly when they try to bash barack obama as weak on...
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he was a point man on the transition in iraq. could have skidded off in a bad direction. he's done -- >> [ inaudible ]. >> that's up to you guys as to why he gets a bad wrap. >> certainly not our fault. >> your heart is not big enough. >> this is a guy that relates to the middle class and working people in this country well and you'll see tonight he's going to do a great job. >> yes he will. >> when you talk to him -- >> david clutching the chuck todd button as he makes the case. >> because i'm looking for the chuck todd 2016 buttons. >> i love it. that's next. that's next. chuck. >> thank you very much. >> all right. >> hey, david, thank you so much. >> sure. >> absolutely. >> coming up, an awkward moment on the convention floor where the democrats try to amend -- >> can i say this for the record. >> david axelrod you're my second favorite david as well. >> when biden talks -- >> when biden and you talk, does he hold your hand like and -- like this and look at you deeply in your eyes? >> he does that to me. >> he's great guy. we love joe. >> an awkward moment on the conv
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but how does it happen when unemployment is so high among returning veterans from iraq and afghanistan that a bill like this gets voted down by 58-40? what was in the bill that caused 58 -- >> well, mike, that's a great question. first of all, is it's a temporary program. there's no such thing as a temporary program in washington. you know that. you've seen it. number two is if, in fact, we're going to start addressing the bigger economic problems of this country, you've got to quit playing felonious accounting with what you're doing, which is exactly what that bill did. it violated the budget control act. it violated paygo. it's exactly the same kind of -- pardon my word -- crap that congress has done for years that says one thing and does another. and so it was a gimmick. we knew it was a gimmick in terms of getting around the spending. it's time for us to start acting responsible. if we want to create another veterans program, we ought to do two or three things. one, we ought to know what's happening to the other job programs, all six of them. there already is a preference for hirin
but how does it happen when unemployment is so high among returning veterans from iraq and afghanistan that a bill like this gets voted down by 58-40? what was in the bill that caused 58 -- >> well, mike, that's a great question. first of all, is it's a temporary program. there's no such thing as a temporary program in washington. you know that. you've seen it. number two is if, in fact, we're going to start addressing the bigger economic problems of this country, you've got to quit...